I had a friend call me yesterday for a recommendation for a new handgun to carry in his vehicle, and I suggested a G19 or G23. I still regret it, but I sold my G23 to my brother and wish I had it back. I still have a first generation G17 that is my "beater" gun and lives in the front basket of my ATV, but to me, the G19/23 is the perfect size for an all purpose carry gun.