To me it is a shame that we argue about this. Hunting is a challenge no matter how you approach it. It all depends on the goals you set for yourself before you go into the woods. If a guy wants to be patient and wait for a large racked mature buck to come in than that is his challenge. To some guys the challenge is in the tackle they decide to take with them. Yet to others their goal is to put meat in the freezer. All of these goals can be had by the same hunter. We should not measure ourselvesby whateveryone else is accomplishing. Rather we should measure ourselves against our past accomplishments. Based on what people have said on here you would think that a hunter has to decide if they want to be a meat hunter or a horn hunter. Some of you make it sound like a hunter should be ashamed ofhimself for wanting to go after their own goals. To me that is just not right.