Matt,

I did not have the peep sight installed when I shot the bow through the chronograph. I specifically wanted to get it as close as possible to a bare string when actually testing it. I left the brass nockset on instead of tieing in a serving simply because it was more convenient and I left the rubber ebutton installed for safety' s sake.

CG,

The feel of the Patriot DC is decidedly different than the feel of any of the Havocs that I owned. First off, as I mentioned, the weight distribution on both of the Bowtech " Pro" series riser bows was more " end weighted" than what you might find on the Havoc. The Havoc, because of its limb/riser configuration and overall size puts more of the weight in front of you as an archer whereas the Pro series risers and other bows with risers of this nature place more weight above and below your bow arm.

As for " shot feel" , they are similar. I never thought the Havocs had much if any recoil or vibration. In terms of noise the Havoc was definitely quieter and, again, the Patriot is significantly faster.

Basically, I think the size and weight distribution of the Havocs was more hunter friendly. But that is just my personal preference.

I still think my Havoc Redline was the best hunting bow I ever owned.