Ok i know i didnt kill anything tonight but i think it is the best hunt ive hadi hadbig 8 pointer and a 4 pointer within 40 yds for over a half hour this i my first encounter with a big buck from my stand. He never had a clue i was there never winded me nothing wow what a pleasure to see such a beautiful animal that close in his natural enviorment.. wow he was a bruiser to probably around 200 pnds. he never gave me a clear shot and never came within my range so i just stood and wathed. I am proud of the fact that he never knew i was there i consider it a personal victory even though i didnt shoot him.