Thanks RiverOtter. We're going to try several loads before we go hunting. I'm pretty sure she can handle the gun. I told her not to worry about it that it didn't kick that bad. After reading some of the good info you guys leave she's not worried anymore. Here's a picture of her with her first ever deer. She shot it with my .243. I told her she's going to have to hunt rifle season with her new blackpowder..lol