i tend to agree... plenty of big bucks taken long before camo was even being used... one gun season hunt in Upper WI i was in the woods with a fold up chair, on the ground, no stand, no blind, no camo... wearing a one piece blaze orange insulated suit (not even blaze orange camo) and it was snowing... no scent control, nothing special at all about it... took a 10pt at about 50-60yrds...