I' ll try this agin. I had a whole post ready an' it didn' t work.

June an' Sept/October are differnt seasons. Elk probly won' t be in the same place, so its not the best use of time to scout elk in June. June is wet. Sept is dry. No pressure in June, plenty of pressure in Sept.

Elk don' t pattern. They cover much more territory then deer, an' in early season, do mos' their waterin' at night. You don' t have much time to sit on waterin' holes productively in early season. They bed early.

Don' t go crashin' about, but git up early an' stay on trails to a jumpin' off point. I git up at 4:00 or even 3:00 if I have a long ride to the area I want to hunt. I don' t camp too close to where I hunt. I try to leave ' em alone an' be there early an' as quiet as possible. Sorry, but thet' s elk huntin' .

Every situashun is differnt. Wind and thermals are impotent. Warming air rises, but you gotta take the ground thet is given to you. If you glass up elk high, you have to plan a approach that allows to to climb without bein' seed, smelled or heard.

Sittin' on water holes is a waste in mos' early season cases. Specially when there' s lots of water to be had. Best to call an' stalk, or glass an' stalk, or still hunt.

My first post was better. But this gives us sumthin' to talk ' bout at least.