thanks alot guys. you fellas listened to the words "need QUICK opinions" ay? lol, i appreciate it. i think i might. that is the majic hour and even if i come home empty handed, it is right on the way home. and if i have a little luck on my side, maybe i will connect. i saw these deer on the powerlines last week when walking out from inside the woods right at dark, so maybe if i hurry and get in there, sitting on the outter wood line on a path i think they take, maybe i can connect. i hate using my damn climber b/c its so loud, but it will help to see better. thanks.