lol beleive me i don't mind the ramblings, i do the same thing. Remember i'm a beginner so everything your "rambling" about is advice to me. I'm using a Mossberg 500, my brother unfortunely is using a single shot. Its my old gun, i got him interested in shooting and hunting after about a 17-18 year lay off and he wanted something simple to start out with. I think we have decided to go to a public hand trap range about 30 minutes away from us saturday instead of sporting clays, i told him that with only having 1 shot he will hopefully become a very good shot. I love to shoot trap, i find it very relaxing and fun, even if i miss everything.