I shot my new Phoenix this afternoon and its sighted in at 30 yds. So i took out one of my 560gr. logs i just fletched up. I walked up to 15 yds. put xhair on yeller jackets dotted butt and shot. Cha ching dead in it. So my logs are hitting dead on at 15 yds. and my 2213's are on at 30yds.[8D]I figure it will skewer a deer from front to back or anyway i see it![:-]