Ok jcombs i cant show you now because i just put my camera out and i built this case for about 20 bucks ive had my stolen all the time but now i put them in steel cases and it pays off so far the best advise i can give you or anyone is put out some cheap cameras and then put out a infared one as well in boxes that is and see what happens.See if you get a theif that way or put your cameras in trees really high up with a climber hey that just gave me an idea im going to try that for my self.. But none the less try the inferred idea and if you catch them well you know what to do.