I don't understand how you guys get all caught up in the "ethical" debate. Is baiting any different than food plots or hunting in an oak that is dropping? I use camers to judge what is out there and bait them to the camera. A week before season I quit baiting (usually because appples aren't available)The way I look at it, as long as it's legal and within your limits, who am I to judge you. I recently went on a guided hunt and watched some incredible animals taken with what I feel was un-ethical means. Guys were flinging arrows way past their limits. Had one world class mulie that was shot in the rear end, I mean entrance hole 4" down and 2"right of the Hole shot!!! Another gut shot and never recovered a 190"+ mulie, another gut shot and recovered, another flung 3 arrows at the same deer...... That to me is unethical, taking shots beyond what you know you can make. I think we need to look at the whole picture instead of what we deem as "ethical", who are we to judge when it is legal. On a recent post, a guy was ridiculed for shooting a deer under a feeder..... if it's legal, who are we to judge? When I lived in northern MI, Leelanau county had deer population counts at 1 deer per square mile, how do you approach hunting like that? There are areas of my state with extremely low deer populations, so some guys bait, good for them. I see guys on here that are quick to judge but may hunt in ways that some feel unethical. I no longer rifle hunt because I like to get closer, would I judge someone for rifle hunting? Never. We, as hunters, need to stick together and quit judging each other based on our own beliefs. How about that new CVA muzzleloader that uses electric instead of primers? Can I call you unethical for using one, it's my belief but I wouldn't. Some guys think that 50,000 acres high fence is unethical/ fair chase but have no problem hunting the only 150 acres for 5 miles. Sorry for the tirade but had to vent a little...