I have the best set of them ever made from the originators of ASAT, not the current owner. I also have the jacket.

Brigadere Quartermasters was the product endorsers when the Barnhart brothers (originator and inventors of ASAT) had the company....I bought them in 1985 and stil wear them today in the coldest weather.

That's a hell of a deal I know but I won't be sending my good $ that direction.

I'm familiar with the dye issue and it will be all but white/tan after x amount of washings.