I think some you guys here missed duckriver's whole point. It doesn't appear he was starting a range controversy by informing us of a good ammunition company, and its load capabilities. Plane, and simple just because you find a good load, and it patterns great doesn't mean anyone has to shoot a turkey out beyond your ethical distances or especially when unsafe. I thought duckriver was just passing on a good ammo for all of us to know. I personally know what duck is speaking about because I shoot what many would consider an average turkey gun. I purchased some Nitro shot last spring, and I got 35 pellets in the head, yes the head, not in circle at 40yds. That is remarkable considering best I could do before was 9-12 in the head @ 25yds. So instead of bashing a guy for a sentence in his info, look at the intent please.