Jon, what do you mean &quot;but I was wanting something that holds the arrow better at full draw.&quot;? I am thinking that at full draw any problems are over. From brace to full draw is were I think the problem would lie. I still think the Muzzy Zero Effect is the best drop away for hunting bar none. I have used several brands and the MZE is what I call &quot;idiot proof&quot;. Maybe thats why I like it so much<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>