well,I'm goin to have to agree with brokenbucket. as far as an easy call to learn on, your box call is much easier to learn on<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
it's hard to make a mistake on a good box call<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ward Burton-- Daytona 500 winner--
go Cat-22