Went to shootin practice today with 62 degree outside .. 250 gold dot w/ harvester short pedal and 100 gr T7 2f . 250 shockwave w/ glide ( yellow sabot ) and 110 gr T7 2f . Both produce same result at 100 yards . But what i am the most comfortable is with gold dot due to better expandable ( knock-out ) for deer in N.Y . I think it would be zero at 175 yards if I decide to shoot farther ??? .. i did not want to bother the scope change dialing . i would aim at a bit above heart .. Thanks for info from one ( waving to sabotloader ) ...