My first deer a 10 1/2 inch spike came in 1973-My dad drooped me off beside a tree-told me to stand still--He went around the other side of this thicket to squirell hunt -before daylight heard some deer come by grunting--couldn't see them--I wanted to rattle so dad gave me two peices of dall rod to beat together--After daylight i beat them and within 20 minutes he slipped in,an I shot him--Did I call him in,I don't know but it was fun!!!