hey thanks sjsfire,I appreciate everyones info but thats what I was really looking for was someone that has owned em both or shot em both,actually they have a good deal on the rem at dick's right now but after the rebate the 500 rifeled combo is still 20.00 dollars cheaper plus its the synthetic stock,not very pretty but will hold up good.The best price I could find on the Burris scope was at natchez shooter supply.