i was 14, and a small 6 point walked out. i was hunting w/ a 30-30 open sights, had 6 bullets in it. i shot the 1st shot and the buck didnt move, think he was in shock. shot 4 more time and still he didnt move. final shot i was thinkin man i have to get it w/ this 1. bang.....he drops on the spot. after that day i will never hunt a deer w/ open sights again. i have yet to hear of a deer do what that buck did. (stand there and look at me like "what the hell are you doing")