TScott I will agree with you that yes Cody has made an attempt to make a call line that is affordable. But I still think that these affordable calls like the Envy Glass call that wal-mart sells (By the way I own this one and love it, I called in two monster gobblers at once with this one last season) are still a notch or two above most others priced relatively the same with maybe the exception being the Knight and Hale Old Yeller Sla-tek a great call all around which I think ranks right up with the affordable cody calls. I just don't think they are a bad as some people are making them out to be. Also a big factor is what everyone thinks a turkey sounds like. We all have our own ideas on that and while I may use a call by cody and say it sounds great and then pickup a primos call and think it sounds like junk, but on the other hand TScott you may hear something completely different with your ears and think the Primos call is great and the Cody is not that great. And then you throw in the fact that different turkeys like different sounds. (Sometimes we all know how frustrating that can be)I appreciate your opinion, it's good to have a nice friendly disagreement once in a while I hope you din't take what I said here as being mean or nasty, I just feel strongly about certain things and sometimes can be pretty opinionated, just ask my wife.