ORIGINAL: ROBERTDD223
THEY WERE RUNNING AT 380+ FPSCLOSER TO 390 , AND MIDDLETON ONLY ADVERTISES 375 WITH A 350GR ARROW SO EXPLAIN TO ME WERE THE SPEED CAME FROM. CRONOS DONT USUALLY LIE. AND MY ARROWS RAN AN AVERAGE OF 396.6 THROUGH THE CRONY WITH A 350.GR ARROW. I THINK 375 FPS MUST BE THE MINIMUM SPEED FOR THIS MODEL OF BOW. ANYWAYS I DO THINK THIS 350GR ARROW IS TO LIGHT, I NOW SHOOT A 500GR ARROW AT ABOUT 348. FPS WITH THE LIMBS THAT ARE ON IT. THE BOW HAS LESS SNAP TO IT AND SEEMS TO WORK MUCH SMOOTHER WITH LESS STRESS FOR SHURE, I HAVE ATLEAST 1500 SHOTS THROUGH THESE CURRENT LIMBS WITH NO TROUBLE. I SHOOT THREE TO FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK AND GO THROUGH A COURSE AT OUR CLUB ONCE A WEEK AVERAGE. ACCURACY IS ABOUT THE SAME AS MY EXCAL 200, WHICH MY DAUGHTER IS KNOW THE PROUD OWNER OF.
ROBERTDD223 you sure like to
YELL when your backing the middleton bow. I think not only do you shoot a middleton, but you might have been (which I heard through the grapevine) a hire gun for the middleton bow to try a put down the Excalibur.
What I said above was that if a crossbow company advertised a certain speed with a certain arrow, that you should be able to safely shoot that arrow without any worries about it failling to fatigue. If there is that worry, then there is a quality issue because the bow is not able to fullfill what it is advertised to be able to do safetly.
As for speeds in a crossbow. MAny many many times I have heard of crossbows (mostly Excalibur because I am around them mostly) shooting above the advertised speeds. There are many things you can do to increase speeds without going below the min arrow weight. It is a know fact that you can gain anywhere from 10-15 feet per second by just doing a few things to the bow (coatting the shooting rail, type of string ect.), therefore as you said that they were only 5-15 FPS over advertised speeds, so it would not be to dificult for someone to assume they were still using advertised min arrow weights.
Now if they were shooting my bow, in a National Championship, which I had gone out to make sure I had many shooters there as possible (maybe even paid them to be there with either money or product)
I would sure make sure that their did not break recomended minimums or chance getting the bow to fail.
Now as for the middleton bow that failed, I had heard that they were going to have difficulty in the duration of life (the dependability aspect) from a person that really knows crossbows. Something to do with the speeds and arrows weights. Well this failure, at a very high profile , high exposure, compitation will only highlight these worries. As I had said before,
ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF IT WILL BE DEPENDABLE OR NOT and the
OR NOT sure has the upper hand right now.
The Excalibur president, about 5 years ago was asked if the 200 lb bow was the highest or if he could build a faster bow. His reply was that YES he could but at what cost. He would not build a bow that would not be dependable but he was testing a faster bow right then (the Exomax) which he would not add any more to the topic (it was still under wraps). You see, the more speed you gain, you give up some durability, some ease in use (harder to cock or load ect.). Bill said that he would not build a bow over 400 FPS if it would not be dependable or risk the shooter's safety. Just maybe some of these other companies do not worry about dependability of the shooters saftey.
As I said ........ FIRST major compitation and the bow fails ......... NOT VERY GOOD ADVERTISING