If I understand right, Horton stopped the line of the 200lb HD Hunters, last year. For I tried to order another a few months later for my brother and they said it will not be no more like 'em. It was explained to me that it was a great bow, but not many folks wanted them for the pulling weight of the crossbow was just to much for them. I use a Horton Ez Crank, which does perfect. but without the crank, no man can even pull it back. It is strong, if I had to do it again, I'd get the 150lb., that was all I needed. But like everything else in my life, I over do things. So I'm hung with the big boy !!! Went threw two Boar Hogs with one shot last year, the shaft never knew they were there !! Even had to find & purchase a special target, for it would got threw everythingI have found on the market, included the internet. The shafts now will just about go threw the special target I have now.....