I'm not a fan of AR for NY. Now on the other hand the guys I hunt with in Western NYand some of the people that own the property around us we try to self impose amore then4 points only harvest self limitation. I'm not a fan of the State telling me we have to do this though. Should be the hunter's choice in my opinion. I'm sure somethe landowners around us shoot spikes and undo our efforts, but that's theirright and Just cause we are looking for trophy bucks doesn't mean they have to be.