I've owned a few that placed the first shot in the group, but most shoot much better with a fouled bore. I've found projectile type makes a difference, too. Sometimes they will shoot better with one particular combination of bullet & sabot, or conical than with others (with the first shot through a clean bore).Before I hunt with a rifle I like to spend enough time at the range to know where that first shot is going. If it mightbe wild, I'll foul the bore before I hunt.