i shoot 1-2" groups at 40. just started shooting 50 and the couple times i have been 4-5" groups.

whats my max distance?? 25yards. you might call me crazy, stupid, an idiot...yes i can shoot. dad says shooting is my gift...i can shoot anything that is shootable..not tooting my own horn...with practice, i honestly believe ANYONE can shoot well. and that i do ALOT more than the average guy around here...but the reason my limit is 25yds is because ive never seen a foam target move. although the arrow is in flight for somewehre between 1-2 seconds, thats ALOT of time in "Deer time" also...my good groups and good shooting has been on the flat level ground of my back yard. days when the weather conditions are perfect. my muscles are warmed up but not fatigued. i feel i owe it to the animal NOT to try stickin them at 40+...

IF i hunted with a range finder AND had the time to range that animal AND the weather was absolutely perfect(no wind etc) AND i had a wide open field or something similar to shoot into i would take farther shots. but still not much farther.

only way im using anything other than my top pin is if i ranged it and conditions are perfect(might have a 30yd shot in my orchard this year...but i gotta hit it with my buddies range finder FIRST) and weather gotta be GOOD. other than that, if i wound one and it runs and stops 50 or 60yds away, i will do my best to try and get another arrow into that animal. 2 arrows would be alot better than 1 IMO...even if they are both bad..