cayugad

Dave not to get sideways with you, but I really believe the "crush rib," while it might be necessary in some rifes - it should not be used at the drop of the hat. Especially not for the ease of loading. If you can load a short or long petal Harvester you are better off.

The "crush rib" often leaks pressure creating a difference anywhere from 200 to 400 fps at the muzzle as compared to the thin offering from MMP - the HPH-3p-EZ. There is a greater loss when comparing the "crush rib" to the regular Harvester of the HPH-24. At first i thought it just might be me and my test bore (an A&H) - but i have tested it from @ least 4 of my otherguns and 3 guns belonging to other people.

The loss of 2/400 fps really does not show up that much in a 100 yard target but as you would know as you extend out from a 100 the drop really becomes apparent. The groups stay together but they do drop on the target.

Just my findings... not looking to cause a controversy...

I thought I had a write up about my testing on this computer but I do not find it...