i been using a Truglo 5 pin extreme for a year now. havent used anything else....but for the money id say its hard to beat. if you cant see those pins, its too dark to shoot. and havent broke, stripped, cracked anything yet...and i tend to be fairly rough on stuff. heck..i broke a fiber optic on my flintlock! that doesnt see 1/8th of the use the bow does...and doesnt get lifted/lowered into a stand etc etc...