I have to disagree. Personally I have found that goose feathers act quite well as kevlar for them against steel shot. Try to go for head/neck shots. They dont run that way either. Also whatever your instinct for lead is.... double it and go from there. They look big but they are deceiving. Also to fix the first problem, if your wallets up to it try using hevi-shot or tungsten. I use tungsten and it rips geese apart from a long freaking way. I used to shoot steel and got tired of listening to it hit and bounce off their feathers. 3 inch all the way no matter what. BBs would be the smallest I would use too...