Thanks again for everyone's advice and suggestions. Cayugad you were right on the money with what the folks from APPP told me. The only thing they added was that APP/Shky Gold likes a heavier bullet. They suggested that I go up from 250gr to 300gr. I will give that a try. Oh, and the bore butter, well it is history. Again, thanks for all the info. Have a great season, shoot straight and keep your powder dry, Rodney