Hey that sounds great, I have some regular ones too. will see how it pans out. by the way Bob and I will be eating our steak medium well, and we don't need any A-1 or heinz 57. WE went out the other day and launched from 9th street across from Lythia springs marina, found some nice Buffalo and carp as well as Gar in the coves by 9th street, didn't see much in Lythia springs marina, did see some Buff's and one grass carp on the main lake by lythia. The grass is real deep this time of year on the lake so makes it kinda rough, but mainly the carp are all laying in there. Well, hope to see you all there, any problems get ahold of me here or [email protected] is my main email, and my cell is 972-6442.