never takin one off the ground with a bow. Almost shot Sampahunter's buck off the ground while he was chasing a doe but he wouldn't stop. Oh well, first day of rifle i tagged a 9 point 2 minutes into the season in a cornfield off the ground, and when Sampahunter came down to help me drag my buck out, i pointed out the buck ialmost got in archery on the hill so he hammered him, an 8 point. Both were takin off the ground with a rifle.