i finally bought one. i went to Bass Pro the other day to buythe CVA Optima Pro with the black synthetic stock and nickle barrel. HOWEVER as usual, Bass Pro did not have it in stock. they only had the full camo one's in stock and i refused to pay an extra $100 for a camo paint job. so i handled a few ML's while i was down there and ended up liking the Traditions Pursuit Pro. it like the CVA, has the longer fluted barrel but Bass Pro hadone with a black synthetic stock and nickle barrel...like i was looking for in the CVA. to make a long story short, it followed me home. i can't wait to shoot it and see how well it performs.