Two years ago I drew in an 8 ponit with it. I think all their can calls work pretty good. I just think you can over do it. If the deer is with in sight I watch it's body language to see how it respondes. I also turned a nice doe around last year with the estrus bleat. She came back right underneath my stand, I was hoping for the buck that was chasing her. Ended up no getting either one..
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