Hey Soilarch, you may be right, but I'm betting (hoping)they will expand even at Hornet velocities.

The Barnes website has a picture of theexpansion of a .308 after only two inches of ballistic gelatin. Check it out.

http://barnesbullets.com/information/bullet-talk/x-citing-facts/

I know, I know - it's308 Winchester velocity. But still - two inches of gelatin?I think it's an favorable indication.

What I plan to do is take a large cardboard box, place a large plastic garbage bag in it, pack the box withvertically stacked newspaper (inside the plastic bag), pour in a couple of gallons of water, and let it set overnight so the paper fully absorbs the water, then shoot into that at 100 yards.

It's not ordinance gelatin, but should tell me if the bullet will expand. Will be interesting anyway.