LONGBEARD, if you would read my past posts i did say private land hunting is better than public. If ive said it once i have said it 100 times. I live in Missouri, its getting leased the same way, i am in south east missouri, not the north which is know for alot of deer and alot of good deer. The deer on public land are no smarter than deer on private land, the key is pressure. I will gurantee if you would get you lazy arse off the couch, dust the potatoe chip crumbs off of your shirt and get out and WORK FOR SOME PRIVATE GROUND, you will get it. I dont think anyone feels sorry for you, when you come up with a decent argument post back but for know easy on the beer big guy