I had 870 (Wingmaster)whena 870 Expresscrossed my path last year. It was a private sale and I couldn't pass it up for $100. The owner stated it was 3 years old but I tell you it looked like new condition. The guy I bought it from stated that he had only put about 5 boxes through it. He was older and had shoulder surgery the year before and decided he didn't want to shoot anymore. He was happy with the $100 and I was more than happy with my new addition.