I was rating scopes which are of similar calibur/price... What are ya drunk or just want to argue~~~~~ha,ha,ha,ha!!!! (pretty funny, Stalkingbear). Was just giving myopinion, about my first hand knowledge of each scope and giving a side by side comparison. I wasn't saying that FF II's were better than all Leupolds', just better than the one's of equal or lesser value!!!!