Ruger---I hunt in Cental Alabama and that is where our camp is. My buddy sold the new one to a gunsmith he knows who has a complete machine shop and he is going to make some mods to it or end up selling it himself. The gunsmith is 5'5 and the new stand will suit him better. I was cramped in the new model but not in the old model.y We(hunt club) are probably going to buy a couple of more used ones, they are in the paper all the time. We haven't quite decided yet. Weight is not an issue since we hunt private land and chain the sob's to trees so they don't walk off. If we buy the old stands we will probably get bowhunting adapters for them. All in All it left me with a bad experience ...good thing I used the old ones otherwise I would really have it in for TL.