I preferably just don't like to shoot past 30 yds, because i am not goingto shoot a buck past that. When I first started bowhunting I had a very experienced bowhunter tell me that he never shot past 20 yds, because his chances of recovering the deer dropped past 20yds. He harvested and recovered over 25 deer in a row with this philosophy, so after trial and error on my behalf I started to emulate him.