hehehehe me and my buddy challenge each other with different off the wall shots from as little as 5 yards to 60 yards.We mix it up pretty good. We never shoot the same distance everytime. Why should you. I mean if you have a deer come in and its 33 yards away, you should know that distance. You should know how to shoot the shot. Dont get me wrong I wont shoot at a deer at 60 yards in a hunting situtation, but you can bet I will bust one at 45 yards and not think twice about it...