I know what your talking about and while I respect my few buddies that don't want to practice past 20 yards, it does get a little annoying when your trying to shoot with them. If we are shooting in my yard its a pain for them to shoot at 20 yards and then for me to have to walk back to 40 or 50 to shoot. Thats why I usually will only shoot one arrow at a time while they shoot 3 and when they are done I do some of my long range shooting.