The point I was trying to make was that even mid grade carbon arrows can be just as accurate as alluminums. I wasnt trying to brag or blow a bunch of BS to everyone. Yes, there is a big difference between shooting a two inch group on a regular basis compaired to once in a blue moon. I dont shoot a 2 inch group at that distance every day, but I can hold my own. Guess some people cant fatham the idea of hittingwhereyour aiming at 70 yards, or it might be that they cant even do it at 40 yards. Who knows, I thought this thread was about carbon arrows not weather or not Im full of sh*t.