Redclub, that is still impressive to consider that the big conical is resting against the skin on the other side. I know you like the big loads and have seen how well you shoot with that peep sight. You almost, and still might have me getting one of them Lyman SMT peeps. Kind of wanted to get another White to put that on... I've seen what the damage is from large conicals on deer and that was one reason I stopped using them for many years. But they have my interest again. I did shoot some 100 grains loaded with the 500 grains Conical and they were not as bad as I first suspected the recoil to be. My fear was scope eye. If it had a peep I am sure I could have shot more.

My one elk hunt was with a 7mm magnum (bought the rifle just for that hunt)many manyyears ago. It really was not what I expected an elk hunt to be, but was still a lot of fun. The country was beautiful. We hit base camp. Played card and drank beerlate into the evening. That following afternoon he took us out. We walked about a mile straight up a mountain (how that guide could just walk along wassomething to watch. He never even puffed.)whch was the worst part, and at the top was a small meadow where he sent me to stand. I shot my 3x4 bull at a distance of maybe 60 yards. I got complete pass through. That animal never even ran, just layed down, stretchedits head forward and that was it. Not a real impressive animal, but when you're young.. that did not seem important. Besides, I all saw was horns. It had to be the best eating animal I have ever shot.

Good thing I practiced to 400 yards for that hunt like the guide told us to. The guide had a very large mule, jacka$$, what ever it was. Not real friendly, but it could sure haul elk better then I could. The guide did tell me that most hunts were much harder and longer then mine. In fact they kidded me about that.

Maybe after things settle down at the house, I can start planning some more hunts. I have a few critters I really want to hunt before I am too crippled up to do it...