Cayugad - those are what I used at 100 and 200yds above. I'll probably try one on a deer this year. I'm a little concerned since Hornady recommends a relatively slow speed for optimal performance with them. If I can take the accuracy of the 300XTP's to 100yds., I'll make that or a similar 300 gr. HP my "go to" hunting round. I'm getting pretty excited about returning to open sights this season, although I did buy all of the stock of 270 Sabertooth the range had for $10 a pack since my scoped CVA Hawken likes them. I've seen the price of the Sabertooth climbing.