Dep214, let me see if I understand your logic, you don't like dog's or deer drives, but being from texas you probably sit in a closed stand and wait for the feeder to go off so the deer will come to you, nothing more exciting than hunting over hound's, and the times that I wasn't useing hounds in arkansas I used other peoples dogs to my advantage. isn't our sport in enough trouble without hunters judging other legal hunters, hunting evolves in all areas based on what works and is socially acceptable, if you don't like something work to change the law , but stop whining, it gives ammo to the anti's