I work on both. Either of them "THUMPERTIZED" will do you just fine. The Muzzy is a better built reel and of course you pay for it. I can put a brand new 808 on your doorstep "THUMPERTIZED" for $51.50. I am working on becoming a Muzzy dealer so hopefully soon I will have them for a comparble price but not yet. I have been shooting a spinner for nearly 20yrs now and I do own a bottle reel, it has never been used, a lot of folks like them but I prefer a spinner personally, and well heck I work on them and sell them so that kinda sums it up. Let me know if you are interested.