i've seen several stag mulies on our place, my buddy shot one last year that was a nice 4x4 with really thick mass that measured 20x20 inches with very little damage to the velvet. it's going to make a nice mount. i've always speculated that it was jumping over the barbed wire or they just didn't fall when they were fawns (seen a dog once with only one nut). but every year i generally see at least one.