Thanks Dave, I guess. How do we know if these results at the 200 is "good shooting"? I know I'm pretty amazed, but only because it looks so dang far when I stand there and look at the stuff hanging on the backstop at that distance. I can't imagine "placing" a shot down there with open sights. But once I'm over the gun and looking down the sights, it seems quite doable. I hope someone else here will give it a try. I really think this is going to help my shooting at shorter ranges. I also know it's unlikely I'll be able to attempt this forever. I can't think of a peer who doesn't require at least reading glasses so how long can I have? The "Big One" is already in the rear view mirror and I don't want to take the gift I've been given for granted.