Thanks Arthur, I am about at the end of my rope with this recurve. One, I think I need a longer one. I love the feel of the handle, but I can shoot alot better with my longbow and its alot more quiet. I have a feeling this recurve is performing better speed wise, but if you can't hit where you are aiming, what does it matter. Right.

I do have 12 cedars, and it will shoot about 4 or 5 of them good. And I have to shoot it cock feather in. Seems like the bow has a narrow range of operation. I mean, it should be more dynamic than this. I can shoot 2018's with 145gr tip and 2016's with 125gr tip, and 60-65lb cedars out of my longbow and they fly straight. 2016's are the best for it but the others don't do too bad.

Just frustrated.